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Monday, August 17, 2009

What they're saying in Archicad forums. Depressing group of software users.

Gosh, I almost hate to do this, but since you occasionally get pissy with Autodesk, you may as well see what they say in the Archicad forums. If you're new here and considering Archicad, remember one thing. They'll never have content creation like Revit. That means they'll never win against Autodesk for MEP building performance and energy calculations.

Be happy all you have to complain about is the Ribbon. Here are a bunch of actual statements and these are all from one forum thread.
It was too depressing and laughable at the same time to go on. Enjoy.....
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'parametric' _or supposed to_ modeling tool ( archicad) does not offer such kind of tools ( without a complex scripting environment)
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"Here a big hint for GS...make opening old version files as seamless as possible and you will remove one major impediment for upgrading annually (IMO)
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However AC needs a simple set of geometrical operations in 3D (not necessarily nurbs-based stuff). just simple SketchUp-like modelling capabilities and of course improvement in faceted geometry as mentioned before.
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Sure there are a lot of things I can do in AC, but it often times seems so laborious and requiring very different ways of thinking. I admit to being lazy, and anything that takes away from my limited creative time and takes me into a cad problem solving mode is a huge (for me) negative. Can't the tools just be made easier to use? Wouldn't that alone be a huge improvement?
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As far as rendering, it appears that Lightworks can do more than good enough renderings for what I need. But again, it requires more effort than I am willing or able to expend for a typical job.
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true .. but there is a big difference between 'can do it in ArchiCAD' and 'can do it in ArchiCAD easily'
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This is exactly what makes me pessimistic. The curtain wall tool has that unpleasant combination of being both substantially dissimilar to other hard-to-use, counter-intuitive tools in ArchiCAD and yet it itself still being counter-intuitive and hard to use.
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The development team seemingly ignoring the users' wishlist items
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Its a sad situation, we all love Archicad, but in america Autodesk has the resources and the muscle to convert the key players into using Revit
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I said it before, the writing is on the wall. We all should be learning Revit although we like it or not....
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So can any informed people create a simple list as to what GS needs to do to match Revits advancements?
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it is one hell of a difference really. In Revit the process seems quite parametric - change the original surface and the associated elements adjust to match. Not so with ArchiCAD, i can imagine adjusting those things manually would be 'smash head through screen' stuff
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I really doubt GS would have managed to get AC 13 to 64bit ... it has been discussed elsewhere but basically to do this would require a fairly fundamental re-write of large parts of the program. However if true i think this + TW2 would make AC13 a fantastic upgrade, regardless of any other new features.
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If you ask me if i would pay for 64bits and TW2 the answer would be definatelly no (since they will have no impact in my job). The problem is i already paid for them (through subscription). Probably , if this are the major stuff in AC13 i will stop upgrading AC for many versions, till it actually evolves.
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For the most part I have always found the upgrades, if not worth the cost, at least worth loading on our machines. Mostly my gripe is that the stuff that I find useful should have been done years earlier.....
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For the most part I have always found the upgrades, if not worth the cost, at least worth loading on our machines. Mostly my gripe is that the stuff that I find useful should have been done years earlier.....
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One of the longstanding issues with Archicad and its abysmal library management is that when you upgrade, the software does not upgrade the library at the same time, automatically. I think this idea of maintaing old versions of the libraries makes about as much sense as maintaining old versions of the software itself. It's an insane piece of archaic hoop-jumping foolishness.
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Among other things, I've heard that the issue of having to load all older libraries containing objects used in a project that has evolved through one or more ArchiCAD version updates has been fixed.
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I am still dreaming of us some day having Visual GDL again that would beat the hell out of Revit Families creation, hehe
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are the subscriptions extended to match the release dates ? NO!
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'parametric' _or supposed to_ modeling tool ( archicad) does not offer such kind of tools ( without a complex scripting environnement)

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