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Friday, April 30, 2010

More comments on the BIMuda Triangle Revit Principal post

Can someone explain to me why the post about a principal being on board with Revit, but his staff not being has generated so much turmoil from you? Do you all realize how many people refuse to even look at Revit?


Let me share with you a scene in our home the other night.
Adrian "JR try the fish"
JR "I don't like it"
Adrian "But JR, how do you know you don't like it, you've never tasted it before"
JR "I just don't like it"
Adrian "OK, here, have some chicken"
JR "OK" (eats the fish)


Now remember, my son is 2 years old. Lets fast forward.


Gregory "Mr architect, try Revit"
Architect "I don't like it"
Gregory "But Mr Architect, how do you know you don't like it, you've never tried it before"
Architect "I just don't like it"
Gregory "OK, here, have some BIM"
Architect "No. I want my sketch pad and pencil back. Why does Autodesk charge so much money for their software. I only work in 2D. I don't need Revit. Why doesn't Autodesk give us the software for free. Google gives us SketchUp for free. We should also get free rent from our landlord, free services from our consultants and free computers from Dell."


Ok. I made up that last part. No one has actually told me they want their sketch pad back. I hope you can see the point. Are 2D drafters 2 year olds? I don't know, but there are a lot of similar conversations to the ones I have in my house.

Addendum 4:54pm.  After discussing this post with several people, I've coined a new term.  Someone who tells you that Revit is bad and has never seen it is a 2D Year Old.  Let's see what kind of mileage we get out of that.
 So, why did a principal wanting his staff to move to Revit upset you? I guess depending on where you live, there's a correlation to the desire to learn new skills. The reality is, so few people have adopted Revit and BIM. There's still so much resistance and that's fine. All it means is fewer firms left in a year or two, less competition and dropping of fees and the BIM firms will win more work and make more money.


So, read some of the responses below. Don't forget that I'm starting a weekly live BIM round table discussion that starts today at 12pm. If you'd like to join and share your thoughts, sign up at www.BIMwtf.com


From the Rebuttal to a BIMuda Triangle post - comments
kubs!x, April 29, 2010 8:55 AM
I would agree on using a white back ground if all of the elements were black, but as colors are applied to elements the use of a white background may not be preferred by the user. Many colors show up poorly on the white background, which can cause eye strain. The bulk of work in those other application that use a white background is text that in most cases is one color, black. Comparing those other applications to Revit may not be a fair comparison if colors are being applied to elements and the majority are different colors. Colors can be applied to elements as visual aids or enhancements to the design process. Using black only elements limits those opportunities. Some examples on the application of color: Applying colors to the different pipe and duct systems is a nice enhancement when routing systems. With large groups of these elements together seeing distinguishing colors aids in quickly identifying the correct system to make a connection. Changing the color of elements as they are connected to systems is another means to quickly identify elements that have not been assigned a systems. Applying colors to tags helps to identify "smart" text versus regular text. When we first plowed into using Revit MEP I too desired to use a white background. As we discovered the benefits of applying color to enhance Revit MEP we soon found the black background to be more beneficial.
Anonymous, April 29, 2010 9:27 AM
I get your point, I don’t necessarily agree with it, but I get it. And you can call me Bob, thanks. Our firm uses Revit (Arch, Struct & MEP) we also use AutoCAD, Microstation, and Bently BIM products. We are an employee owned AE with offices all over the country. I’m all for people –anyone & everyone that embraces new technology. Yes, if there is a need to threaten your employees to get them motivated, then perhaps it’s time to look at the people you hired. In this economy, there are many skilled, experienced people looking for work that would love the chance to learn new skills. If this principal is so motivated himself, then why did it take him two years to open the Revit box and get started? Who’s fault is that, blame it on the CAD drafter? I have no idea what the industry adoption rate is for Revit, I only know what we are doing. And that is, staying on the cutting edge of design by using new tools, new methods, and developing new skill sets all while delivering quality projects to our clients. Thou this has not been easy, and at times has been very frustrating, to my knowledge, no one in our firm has been fired, threatened or otherwise terrorized through all our efforts. Your telling me right now, today, you are turning out BIM projects with 0 RFI’s, 0 CO’s and 0 Addendums? WOW you are really good, we aren’t there yet, but maybe in a few years after more software development, and the skills are improved with experience, and the models are more widely used by contractors in the field, maybe then we will catch up with you. Principals are risk takers by nature, they but their profession on the line every time they sign and seal a drawing, so I would think and hope that risk is not what is holding any firm back from moving forward with any new technology. In this economy and very competitive market I can see where many firms are in a financial state that would not allow them to adopt new software with all the training and other associated costs, but risk? I’m not buying that one. This “Principal” wants to fire his staff if they use a black screen for Revit work? I would hope he has bigger fish to fry that that! So yes, reading this kind of thing does make me angry. Isn’t there enough stress involved in learning new tools and really perhaps in everyday professional and personal life in general without having a goon walk around the office threatening you? As for use of black screens, I’ve been using a black screen for close to 20 years and I like it, I see no reason to change it (unless of course I got fired!) Most if not all CAD/BIM software gives you the option of screen color. I’ve used black screens for PDMS, Microstation, and Bently BIM. I’d say our office is about 50-50 on the black vs white screen. And I sure hope the half of us with the black screens are safe! So it’s not really “negative venom” it’s just the way I see it, plain as black and white. Hey Mr. Principal, you want fries with that?




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